Still refusing to give in to the call of serious work beginning to tug me a bit. I promised myself I'd have a break until at least Jan 2nd

It's amazing how many bands rehearse over Christmas hols.

Seasons Greetings to all our supporters.
Thanks for a great year - we couldn't have done it without you. We're sure 2012 will be even better:)x

Our new site is almost finished http://ht.ly/877jy

The photos of our launch party - featuring Paul Gray and others... http://ht.ly/84rsG

photos of our launch party - featuring Paul Gray and others... http://ht.ly/84rsG

Will I be able to resist playing on the our new virus ti synth and get some walls painted at home?

We re defo on TV tonight. An interview about M.A.D and the Creative Hub. ITV Wales 10.35 Sharpend. we re on at the end of prog.

Just found out due to an appearance by Ed Balls our t.v slot has been rescheduled for next weeks program. Balls!
Sorry couldn't resist pun.
Will let you know.

We're on T.V tonight. Sharpend ITV Wales 10.35 featuring Swansea M.A.D.
The first of many appearances - watch this space! http://ht.ly/7KQSp

Just heard that Paul Gray ex Dammed bassist. Ex Hot Rods is making an appearance at our studio opening!

In the last stages of planning the launch event this Fri- everythings coming together nice. There's still a couple of places left so if you're interested in comming along. Drop us a line to reserve a seat & snacks

Almost nearly there with the studio - could do with some acoustic treatment in the control room but can mix down on cans. Just a good clean and tidy to go!

One more wall painted in the studio.
Just heard that a team of volunteers are coming Friday to finish it!

3 walls;2 ceilings painted; a bit of glass; a good tidy and a piece of carpet short of a great studio

Putting final touches to the studio. We have a control room window now. Pics up soon

Today we launch the MADgigGuide at the Garage Swansea
With a plethora of great bands. Come on down tonight! For some
cheeky Monday fun!

latest news up now http://ht.ly/6RQlC

latest news up
Studio refurb

We are refurbishing the studio to make it an even better place to be inspired in!

The green screen will be repainted, and a new improved lighting system will be fitted.

The acoustics in the large recording room will be improved with bass traps and curtains to deaden the echoes and external noise – making the noise you make sound even better.

There will be a chill-out area painted purple, orange and black ,with space hoppers to complete the kitsch retro feel, featuring free tea and coffee and a fridge stacked with goodies to keep you going through rehearsals and recordings.

Although the refurb is on-going, the rooms are available for booking

Rates for band rehearsals in the Viper Room are:

£15 for 2 hours

£20 for 3 hours

£25 for 4 hours

£30 for 5 hours

It’s a massive 30′ x 15′ room with PA and drum kit included, generally available between 11am and 11 pm

To book, call 07947593646, email info [at] madinswansea [dot] org [dot] uk or book online www.madinswansea.org.uk



The refurb will be finished by the end of November, when we’ll be using it to launch our GwirVol project, ‘Tawe and Country’

‘Tawe and Country’

Had enough of young people being blamed for everything, or being bad-mouthed and put down? Want to show all the positive things that you and others are doing?

You can use ‘Tawe and Country’ (Tawe for the river Tawe which runs through Swansea) to plan, write and produce short films about the work young people are doing, in the area and around the world.

The three main themes are:

Community – for example, the lives of young carers or the work done by young volunteers

Environment – concerns and activism locally, nationally and worldwide. What are your concerns for the future of the world? What different things are you or others doing to turn the tide towards a healthier, more sustainable planet?

Inspiration – music, art, dance and sport – or anything else which inspires you, or where you have a talent. What are the challenges and issues you have to deal with to be the best you can be – and what are your greatest successes?



The project starts mid-November, and is aimed at 16 to 25 year olds, although not all members of a group have to be in that age range. It lasts for up to 6 months, and you’ll be involved for up to 4 hours a week – times and commitments are flexible, and we can travel to you with our fantastic mobile equipment.



We can also pay travelling and food expenses if needed, and there is free tea, coffee and soft drinks at MAD central on High Street.



There are limited places, but we want to involve as many people as possible, so please get in touch with us if you’re interested. Everyone who participates can learn film making skills including operating cameras and sound recording, interviewing and being interviewed, as well as getting the opportunity to put forward your own ideas.



The project will be launched at the end of November in the refurbished studio, but work on ideas starts mid-November, so email us soon info [at] madinswansea [dot] org [dot] uk



More new musicians working with MAD.

We’ve been working with two emerging young Black artists, Louisa and Young Juppie, both originally from Ghana and now living in Swansea.

Louisa is a dancehall singer who used MAD to help her create the video for her latest track, Fever. Click here to check it out.

Young Juppie is a rapper – he’s written a rap about Swansea, City by the Sea, with help from MAD.

Both really talented, we’ve loved working with them and hope they’ve benefited from our facilities. Please get in touch if you want to record a track or create a video.

MADgigguide launch the Garage Swansea
This Mon 10th. Starting 7.30 With The Ripping Cones The Electric Company, Nothing to Nine, Paper Factory, Plankton Bloom.

MADgigguide launch the Garage Swansea
This Mon 10th. Starting 7.30 With The Ripping Cones The Electric Company, Nothing to Nine, Paper Factory, Plankton Bloom.

There's a 5 hour rehearsal session this Monday eve at the studio going for half price £15.Late cancellation txt/call:07947593646

Hello M.A.D army. We're launching our new gig guide at the Garage Uplands Swansea
Monday 10th October starting 7.30ish. With The Ripping Cones The Electric Company, Nothing to Nine, Paper Factory, Plankton Bloom. Come on down!

We've been doing up the whole studio;chill out area;acoustic curtains;free tea and coffee. See for your self: http://ht.ly/6JCNT

If you've not jammed with us before contact us for a free jam and feel the difference! http://ht.ly/6JD7b

All bands can now use our chill out area -free tea and coffee. Contact us for a free jam! http://ht.ly/6JCvE http://ht.ly/6JCAF

Starting decorating work on the studio this week recording and rehearsals unaffected. You can book online:http://tiny.cc/f5sz7

We've just changed our rehearsal pricing - bands can now book in 2.5hr slots for £15.
Large 30x15' room - PA &Drums http://ht.ly/6cSs9

New tracks recorded at the studio: http://ht.ly/6f0uE

You can now book online for rehearsals and recording - here: http://ht.ly/6cSWq
New pricing structure!

New tracks recorded at the studio - What about Ruffio's demo: http://ht.ly/6f0sJ

We've just changed our rehearsal pricing - bands can now book in 2.5hr slots for £15.
Large 30x15' room - PA &Drums http://ht.ly/6cSs9

Just recorded some new tracks at the studio by the marvolous "What about Ruffio"
Check them out here: http://ht.ly/6f0qY

You can now book online for rehearsals and recording - here: http://ht.ly/6cSWq
New pricing structure!

We've just changed our rehearsal pricing - bands can now book in 2.5hr slots for £15.
Large 30x15' room - PA &Drums http://ht.ly/6cSs9

You can now book online for rehearsals and recording - here: http://ht.ly/6cSWq
New pricing structure!

You can now book online for rehearsals and recording - here: http://ht.ly/6cSWq
New pricing structure!

We've now got online booking for all rehearsals and recording - but you can still call us as well to make a booking.
http://ping.fm/gVue3

Now Tawe studio run by Swansea M.A.D
High St Swansea. Swansea city's first community run studio.

M.A.D Summer Savers 
Book 2 sessions and get 1 free on rehearsals
£30 per 5hr session.PA /drum kit included
Enq:info@madinswansea.org.uk

Crai Music:
Help us create the new sound. Use our recording kit for free!
For the love!
http://tinyurl.com/42tw28x

Cri Music
Use or recording and sequencing facilities and help us push the frontiers of music http://tinyurl.com/42tw28x

Has the revolution started yet?

http://ht.ly/5YCGx

Who is this guy Cameron? I've never heard of him until now.

http://ht.ly/5YCwx

Is this a coincidence. Tory Gov = youth and community service cuts = riots?

http://ht.ly/5MxCb See here.
Visual artists and the like? Interested in being part of the 54th Venice Biennale?

27=Janis,Jimmy,Kurt + now Amy. Well miss you babe. Thanks for the tunes. Our thoughts with your family as some people forget this. Swansea M.A.D

I forgot how great he was and how much he inspired me many years ago
Man Ray:http://ping.fm/6j0NT

http://ht.ly/5KKvf

Great article on pay to play gigs - I might follow up with a look at pay to play film festivals or exhibitions?

http://ht.ly/5KKsH
Hands up who thinks pay to play gigs are morally right? Ok then what about pay to play film festivals?

Callingall bands: book 2 rehearsals get one free finishes the end of the month. For every 2 or more rehearsals booked you get one 100% free!

http://ht.ly/5ALwh
I love the guitar in the bin bit - odds on its true?

http://tinyurl.com/3wb37lc
What do you reckon fancy a flutter?

http://ht.ly/5ALnC

Loved Kosheen’s "Hide you" Used to hammer it in our club in Nottingham. Didnt know she
was a lovely Welshie!

http://tinyurl.com/3bqkc5c
I dont remember this guy from the punk days but I suppose I was never into the Newport punk scene?

Callingall bands: book 2 rehearsals get one free finishes the end of the month. For every 2 or more rehearsals booked you get one 100% free!

National Museum of Art for Wales opens to the public. Incl. works from Lucian Freud & David Hockney. http://ping.fm/VhnMA

Anybody tried gay rum? I recommend it for 5 on a Friday! http://ping.fm/Cq52k

http://ping.fm/a2Q8G

New gig listings up. SKA fest looks v cool.x

http://ht.ly/5ALzA
The best of whats good about Welsh music

Bob Dylan's new art collection unveiled in Wales. A further example of Dylan's genius or clarification of his sheer over-ratedness?

The M.A.D Studio is open for filming, rehearsing and recording so start jotting those ideas down and contact us about making them happen.

Were giving away one free session for those bands/musos who block book two or more sessions at Viper Rehearsal:info@madinswansea.org.uk

New gig listings up on our site. If you have any gigs or events please send us the listings
info@madinswansea.org.uk http://ht.ly/5DeXz

Back on track today

We're going to pay for this good weather big time this weekend!

Fear is the real enemy!

New gig listings up on our site. If you have any gigs or events please send us the listings
info@madinswansea.org.uk http://ht.ly/5DeXz

Were giving away one free session for those bands/musos who block book two or more sessions at Viper Rehearsal:info@madinswansea.org.uk

http://ht.ly/5ALkk
More of this should happen. M.A.D tried to set up a similar scheme in Swansea but it didnt get past councils H&S regs

http://ht.ly/5ALid This is great but I'd like to see it somewhere like St David's instead of Cardiff ( yet again)?

Jam with us! 100% of the cash you spend on rehearsals with us, goes back to help musicians http://ow.ly/5tgjG

Music and live music in Wales = 60bn 2010 believe it! Why can you get local face to face business support for any other biz but not music?

The Assembly Gov needs to give musicians local face to face support so they can realise their potential in the Creative Industry

If your interested in helping us run a recording studio drop us a line:info@madinswansea.org.uk

Started a gig guide - please submit your listings http://ow.ly/5sKbN

Playing in a band should be like engineering but there needs to be support and help for local bands - theyre a massive potential industry

All profits from the Viper rehearsal Rooms go back into the business. We exist while musicians support us. Thanks for you support so far

Music and live music in Wales = 60bn 2010 believe it! Why can you get local face to face business support for any other biz but not music?

The Viper rehearsal room has moved to High St. Space filling up fast! drop us a line if you need a space to jam:info@madinswansea.org.uk

We should all get behind this... http://ow.ly/5sJDg

I cant believe they didnt see this coming? http://ow.ly/5sJVz

Viper Rehearsal Rooms are run by musicians for musicians. We're more than 100% not for profit. Support us: http://ow.ly/5sJnO

Viper Rehearsal Rooms are run by musicians for musicians. We're more than 100% not for profit. Support us: http://ow.ly/5sJnO

Where the WAG is failing musicians is that there is no local face to face support to tell them about P.R.S, Publishing, management. ETC...

http://ow.ly/5sJvm Get Yourself up here this weekend - going to be a cracker !

The Viper rehearsal room has moved to High St. Space filling up fast! drop us a line if you need a space to jam:info@madinswansea.org.uk

The Viper rehearsal room has moved to High St. Space filling up fast! drop us a line if you need a space to jam:info@madinswansea.org.uk

test

Wish you were here!
Glastonbury 2011 Day 1: http://ping.fm/KzoIV

The Viper rehearsal room has moved to High St. Space filling up fast! drop us a line if you need a space to Jam:info@madinswansea.org.uk

The Viper rehearsal room has moved to High St. Space filling up fast! drop us a line if you need a space to Jam:info@madinswansea.org.uk

The Viper rehearsal room has moved to High St. Space filling up fast! drop us a line if you need a space to Jam:info@madinswansea.org.uk

The Viper rehearsal room has moved to High St. Space filling up fast! drop us a line if you need a space to Jam:info@madinswansea.org.uk

testing2

Testing ping fm

Hey, hope everyone is well.

Viper rooms are open!!! They have moved to Now Tawe studio run by Swansea M.A.D.

Anyone looking to jam, or needing any sort of practice space, give Stu a buzz on 07947 593646

New place is in the centre of Swansea - much bigger, fully soundproofed and has a lot going on (like music video production, recording facilities and has two dedicated rehearsal spaces etc)

Drum kit and pa provided.

We're especially looking for bands who want to block book slots – there's only so many times and rooms so get in fast as when they're gone they're gone!

Enjoy the Summer... See you soon... Viva La Viper

The British Sumner is just joined up periods of not so much rain

Being a first time day I find this shocking - am I being a prude?
http://ping.fm/6MxJj

Filming a band on the studio roof today - try and get some pics

Sort of back on track with Swansea M.A.D today after a failed bank hol attempt at Glamping!

Congrats to The Swans for beating Reading and getting to the Premiership. A class act from a class City

M.A.D weekly business meeting tonight- postponed lastTues .As usual open to all. Starts 6 for 6.30 at the Studio. Pm me for address.

Just finished a bid to the peoples postcode lottery. Will get us a new cam and computer for our training project

We've started work on the new M.A.D site. Still got heaps to do. Sneek peak. WWW.madinswansea.org.uk

The council need to realise just putting white lines around potholes won't sort them out

Life is just a bundle of wires that lead us to the end

There's no better feeling than finishing a grant app long before the deadline. The world is mine haha!

Had my head in a GANTT for days now.

Mumbles Musical Mile starts today 8!
http://ow.ly/4JBCO

Party Down By the Sea - watch the bands and then the waves. MumblesMusicaMile Starts Today: http://ow.ly/4JBMz

This weekend is sure to be a scorcher! Looking for someway to kick back? The Mumbles Musical Mile Tomorrow:www.mumblesmusicalmile.co.uk

Gwirvol app finished - bring on the next!

How are your outcomes today sir - good I trust?

I'm two sections away from grant app joy! Nearly finished!

More of the same: App Blindness

Application blindness: inflammation of the eyes and head from staring at the same grant application for too long...I got it!

Got a great recording session coming up Monday: with Dutty B,Griff and Robyn & Alfie From Felix Subway.

Undercurrents could be getting a solar cinema - a few clicks will support. http://dld.bz/WErp

Our new blog:Third Sector Sustainability. 1st instalment- A guide to improving grant apps http://dld.bz/WU5U

Undercurrents could be getting a solar cinema - a few clicks will support. http://dld.bz/WErp

http://dld.bz/Xfan I love the sound of this but couldnt we use punk rock instead? Thats vintage enough now

Our new blog:Third Sector Sustainability. 1st instalment- A guide to improving grant apps http://dld.bz/WU5U

Someone once said success has got a lot to do with movement - the more you move the more you do. Keep on moving - name that song in one!

Spent the last part of yesterday looking at a funding opportunity @ WAG - you need to learn a new language to understand it and thats not Welsh!

Undercurrents could be getting a solar cinema - a few clicks will support. http://dld.bz/WErp

Check out this mix from the Riotous Rockers - Maybe they will friend Swanseamad on soundcloud if I plug them enough http://dld.bz/WXWV

Our new blog:Third Sector Sustainability. 1st instalment- A guide to improving grant apps http://dld.bz/WU5U

Attempting to improve acoustics in big studio room this week - cheap carpet should do the job. Then two bands rehearsing at any one time.

Happy belated birthday chapter - One day in Swansea... http://dld.bz/WXXE

There's going to be a lot of road digging to get all those fibre cables laid:http://dld.bz/WXXR

Our new blog for Third Sector Sustainability. 1st instalment a guide to improving grant apps http://dld.bz/WU5U

Record store day tomorrow! Apart from HMV is there another in Swansea? http://dld.bz/WSyd

Undercurrents could be getting a solar cinema - a few clicks will support. http://dld.bz/WErp

Apparently I should have a day off doing stuff today. My wife is right I do work every day without a break. So today is officially break day

Apparently I should have a day off doing stuff today - my wife is right. I do work every day without a break. Does it help productivity?

Going to get stuck into grant applications next week and this: http://dld.bz/WSxB

Green screen done and 1st band rehearsal room is done - had 10 bands this month already,rehearsal room2 finished nxt week -pics up soon

Name those lyrics in one - from a famous Sunday song: "a rinky dinky di do" Its near enough and if you know the song you should get it!

Undercurrents could be getting a solar cinema - a few clicks will support. http://dld.bz/WErp

Green screen done and 1st band rehearsal room is done - had 10 bands this month already,rehearsal room2 finished nxt week -pics up soon

Going all out to finish the studio next week,improving acoustics is biggest problem. Its a matter of density -wish I listened in physics

Been in the studio all afternoon - Dutty B laying down some awesome licks. Got that Friday Feeling now!

Undercurrents could be getting a solar cinema - a few clicks will support. http://dld.bz/WErp

Going to ditch electronic to do lists for an old fashioned paper one. Lo Fi is the way to go.

We've been short-listed to do a feasibility study for a community hub in Penlan Swansea.

Green screen done and 1st band rehearsal room is done - had 10 bands this month already,rehearsal room2 finished nxt week -pics up soon

Not another one. Why can't we just have help with core funding instead?http://dld.bz/WBRg

Undercurrents could get a solar cinema! Couple of clicks will support it http://ping.fm/PWyHY

Just spoke to Thee Man frm Big Lottery fund-if we do it right our next studio project will be a goer

Just about to go into our weekly business meeting as always open to all. Please pop along.

just going into an interview with Reach Bridgend

painting our studio - just extended our green screen space.

Scorchio! What does this weather make you feel like doing?

Curry officnados - why can't people just eat and taste

The Viper Room rehearsal suit is at Now Tawe studio. First bands in last night. All you bands book your sessions at the best in town

And the name of our new studio is: NOW TAWE

Got a meeting next week with WAG creative industry sec. About developing a Augmented reality browser. Could this be the one?

Just cleaned my car - its bound to piss down later

Did my first full day in our studio/office yesterday and my second today - empire building is hard work!

In the studio all next week hoping to get tons done. It's amazing how much more work you can do away from home

Projects for the people by the people facilitated by us

Finish work today! Then the real work starts? Anybody know anyone who wants to help me spend my react funding and provide some audiovisual training?

A Big Welcome to Syd our newest volunteer recruit to Swansea M.A.D - hell be a great asset with regards to video making

Going to give the organization/my life a spring clean. Staring next week!

Going to start using the getting things done system to run things GTD anybody else tried?
http://www.davidco.com/

Doing a SWOT analysis of our business for plan. Does it still have the value it once add in this age of google stats and social networks?

Writing a business plan for communities 2.0: http://ping.fm/be512

Thanks for last night to Paul from Undercurrents and Paul from A Thousand pictures. For helping with Swansea Telly shoot. Couldn't have done it without you.

Why does nothing ever turn out like you think it will?

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New Green Screen Test

Alfie from Felix subway tests our new green screen

Business Support

Hello
 Just recording our experiences of using the WAG's flexible business support Here
I booked an appoinment a couple of weeks ago about developing our augmented reality business in Swansea.

I was interviewed by one on the business advisors and seemed genuinely interested in our ideas he's promised to put us in touch with a person who deals with specilist help an support for the creative industry in Wales. I've just recieved a call this morning to say he's passed it up the chain as the development is quite specilised and its important we get it tro the correct people. There is apparently the possibility of financial assistance for tech development in Wales;help from university departments as well as shared investment in the end product. Which will be an augmented reality browser - yes very spesilist I know but apparently this is what the Welsh economy will be built on in the future. It's one of the key growth areas identified by the WAG Here
My young son is now pulling my laptop away from me so I think its time to go. More up dates soon.
..Stu
 

Swansea art gallery to shut its doors for £6m refit

Well the improvements to the gallery So the new news is that the Glynn Vivian art gallery is going to be closing for 2 years for a £6m revamp! Now you might be thinking, like me, why? Doesn't it seem a little ridiculous to be closing one of Swansea's main art attractions, and for such a long period of time, what could they possibly be doing that would cost them £6m?will include some structural work, a 50-seat lecture and screening room, improved disabled access, a new dedicated library and research room and various other features all being funded by Assembly Government, the Arts Council of Wales and Swansea Council. Fair enough then I suppose, I do have to agree that the Glynn Vivian art gallery is in need of a little attention and I cannot wait to see how the place looks once it's all done and dusted. So prepare to say goodbye to Glynn Vivian galley towards the end of this year.

 

For more info head to the following article - http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/2011/02/14/swansea-art-gallery-to-shut-its-doors-for-6m-refit-91466-28165119/

Exhibition (Inhertied Dysfunction) on its way

So it's just over a month until our first MAD exhibition and we want more artists to get involved doing whatever it is that you do, painting, sculpting etc. , it's a great opportunity to get your work out there and to have a say about how you think the world really works! for further info contact Toby at MAD_COOPER@hotmail.co.uk

Whey!

The shop is absolutely back in swing, thanks to you guys for all the support! We've got books, games, CD's, clothing, locally handmade candles, various memorabilia, local art work, an exhibition space and more! It's a right old mix up over here so come and have a ganders.

The MAD Exhibition

So the exhibition is titled Inherited Dysfunction, focusing on the faults with society, things like, for example how we don’t question things that are probably quite morally wrong simply because we were brought up to accept it, kind of like a collective mental illness. However interpret it as you wish. The exhibition is going to hopefully contain a whole spectrum of different creative medium, possibly including a few live acts at different times throughout the event (musicians, poets etc.). It will be hosted at Tapestri Bar in Swansea from 10th March for a month and there will also be a private view on the opening night from 19:00 until 21:00.

Interested? Contact Toby at:-
MAD_COOPER@hotmail.co.uk

Exhibition : Inherited Dysfunction

The exhibition plans are coming along fine, we have a few artists and musician showing interest but sadly not many others! Keep in mind the exhibition is aiming to be a full range of creative medium such as photography, painting, installation, animation, poetry etc. So whatever your work type may be, if you're interested get in touch! MAD_COOPER@hotmail.co.uk

We've got it going!

So it's the first week after the shop reopening and we're glad to see so many keen faces popping in to say hello and to have a look around. We're also still making progress with the film studio set up and are glad to see people wanting to get involved with our various projects such as our exhibition and our save the CD campaign. 

Things are currently all going swimmingly.

MAD Shop's Back In Town!

Finally the new and improved MAD shop will be reopening this Saturday. So thank you for all of the support we've received throughout this whole ordeal, you should pop in and have a ganders. We looking forward to seeing you there!

The MAD Exhibition - Part One: Inherited Dysfunction

The MAD exhibition slot is now booked and the title and theme we have settled on is inherited dysfunction. It will be hosted at Tapestri in Swansea from the 9^th of March onwards. Admission prices are yet to be set though we're not going to charge an arm and a leg, So I’ll be keeping in touch with information and updates on how the first MAD exhibition is coming along and making sure none of you forget the big event! That's all for now folks.

Danielle Pursey Exhibtion (PRIVATE VIEWING) - Psoriasis:beneath the surface

14 January · 19:00 - 21:00

on the 14th of January The MAD shop will be hosting the private view to this FREE exhibition, it will then continue during the day until the 29th January for anyone to come along. Shop opening times are Monday to Saturday from 10am until 5pm.
MAD Shop and exhibition space, 4 Mansel St, Swansea SA1 5EU

If you're interested then pop in or send your rsvp to the link below which will take you to the Facebook event. Hope to see you there!

http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=132901433440525

Mumblesmusicalmile2011-YouTube.mov

Happy New Year!

Hello there everyone, to start, we hope you all had an excellent Christmas and a happy new year, but it's 2011 now and we're all about the future. This year we're back and we're better than ever before, with resolutions such as expanding (with our new film studio on the way!) and really getting Swansea back in the swing of things, so expect fund raisers, exhibitions and gigs galore! We're hoping we can make it one to remember, are we mad? Yes! we are!

So have a good start to the new year and we'll keep you updated.